the best advice i can give you is to only romance bioware characters because as long as you give them gifts and pick the dialogue options with hearts next to them then they won’t ever hurt you literally only romance bioware characters real people are stinky
Confession: While I don’t hate Anders for blowing up the Chantry…why not just overthrow Meredith through Hawke? Just have the Champion challenge Meredith for the Viscount’s seat and then boom! Instant freeing of mages! Kirkwall likes Hawke more than Meredith, and its not like Anders won’t go to Hawke for help if he’s desperate. Less bloody, more peaceful and a hell of a lot smarter.
It wasn’t just about Kirkwall though. Mages are systematically oppressed throughout Thedas, and the Chantry is instrumental in that oppression. They’re in charge of the Templars, they oversee the Circles of Magi, and they are the religious powerhouse of Thedas. They wield the most influence.
“Justice without force is powerless; force without justice is tyrannical.”
Chatting with the gang. xD Then someone sings Disney. And they sing it with me. xDD
And then this happens.
Timohawke and Puumbanders. xD
Inspired with Shimmy and in the chat with lots of friends. I SHOULD BE DOING SCHOOLWORK.
so this is just about the best thing. more glorious than i ever could have imagined. that sass from timonhawke is slaying me. every detail—oh my gosh that glorious stubble—on pumbaanders is slaying me. i hope i dream of this vision tonight. disney crossover life.
Hawkeuna matanders! What a wonderful phrase! Hawkeuna matanders! Champion and his mage!
It means no chantry For the rest of your days It’s our templar-free Philosophy— Hawkeuna Matanders!
Because the Chantry was ultimately the driving force, the benevolent excuser of all the Templars’ misdeeds. The Chantry created the Templar. The Chantry created the rules about mages. Everything goes back to the Chantry, and Anders knew that and wanted to dismantle the very institution that was supporting the oppression. It sent a fairly strong message, I think. A supporter of the Chantry is a supporter of the mistreatment and imprisonment of mages.
I just wish there had been an option to hug him and pat him on the back for it. All they gave me was a range of rage to mild frustration.
Why the Chantry?
It’s pretty simple, actually.
The Templars are servants of the Chantry. They are given their duties by the Chantry, they can be commanded by the Chantry.
Yes, the Chantry seems very innocent and whatnot. We think it’s just another place of worship.
It’s not. It’s THE Church of Thedas. It’s an institution. It’s the silent power behind the sword and shield of the Templars.
You see it in the game. Elthina is the only one to rein Meredith in whenever the woman is making a fuss. Elthina is the only one who can get through to Meredith, even when the latter is showing signs of lyrium possession. Elthina refuses to involve herself verbally because she knows that her silence is all that is needed. A “neutral” stance in a time of oppression is a sign of agreeing with the oppressor. If Elthina verbally throws her lot in with the Templars, the mages will realize what’s going on. They will realize that they are being subjugated by the will of the Chantry.
With Elthina’s silence, they can imagine that she is ignorant of what is going on. They can imagine she is an innocent, when the very institution she represents spews lines about magic being an affront to the will of the Maker.
Everyone can pretend they don’t see what’s going on.
By attacking the Chantry, Anders attacks the value system. It’s very indicative of the way the game forces the player to make the final choice between the Templars and the Circle. There can be no middle ground. Elthina couldn’t play the neutral card forever, and with her dead, neither can you.
On a practical level, I can only imagine how tight the Knight-Commander’s security is, especially in the Gallows. The Chantry just proved a very easy target.
(For discussion on Elthina’s character, I really recommend Flutiebear’s posts on the subject. They’re incredibly interesting.)