After being stuck in Kristoff’s corpse all that time you’d want to feel pretty, too.
Chatting with the gang. xD Then someone sings Disney.
And they sing it with me. xDD
And then this happens.
Timohawke and Puumbanders. xD
Inspired with Shimmy and in the chat with lots of friends.
I SHOULD BE DOING SCHOOLWORK.
so this is just about the best thing. more glorious than i ever could have imagined. that sass from timonhawke is slaying me. every detail—oh my gosh that glorious stubble—on pumbaanders is slaying me. i hope i dream of this vision tonight. disney crossover life.
What a wonderful phrase!
Champion and his mage!
It means no chantry
For the rest of your days
It’s our templar-free
I LOVE internet.
Because the Chantry was ultimately the driving force, the benevolent excuser of all the Templars’ misdeeds. The Chantry created the Templar. The Chantry created the rules about mages. Everything goes back to the Chantry, and Anders knew that and wanted to dismantle the very institution that was supporting the oppression. It sent a fairly strong message, I think. A supporter of the Chantry is a supporter of the mistreatment and imprisonment of mages.
I just wish there had been an option to hug him and pat him on the back for it. All they gave me was a range of rage to mild frustration.
Why the Chantry?
It’s pretty simple, actually.
The Templars are servants of the Chantry. They are given their duties by the Chantry, they can be commanded by the Chantry.
Yes, the Chantry seems very innocent and whatnot. We think it’s just another place of worship.
It’s not. It’s THE Church of Thedas. It’s an institution. It’s the silent power behind the sword and shield of the Templars.
You see it in the game. Elthina is the only one to rein Meredith in whenever the woman is making a fuss. Elthina is the only one who can get through to Meredith, even when the latter is showing signs of lyrium possession. Elthina refuses to involve herself verbally because she knows that her silence is all that is needed. A “neutral” stance in a time of oppression is a sign of agreeing with the oppressor. If Elthina verbally throws her lot in with the Templars, the mages will realize what’s going on. They will realize that they are being subjugated by the will of the Chantry.
With Elthina’s silence, they can imagine that she is ignorant of what is going on. They can imagine she is an innocent, when the very institution she represents spews lines about magic being an affront to the will of the Maker.
Everyone can pretend they don’t see what’s going on.
By attacking the Chantry, Anders attacks the value system. It’s very indicative of the way the game forces the player to make the final choice between the Templars and the Circle. There can be no middle ground. Elthina couldn’t play the neutral card forever, and with her dead, neither can you.
On a practical level, I can only imagine how tight the Knight-Commander’s security is, especially in the Gallows. The Chantry just proved a very easy target.
(For discussion on Elthina’s character, I really recommend Flutiebear’s posts on the subject. They’re incredibly interesting.)
He asked about being able to stay with me and I was just all casually going for the “You know you’re always welcome” kind of answer… but then it seems that that actually translates into “I want to be with you till we die”??
WHOA WHOA WHOA
I did not sign up for this!
I love Anders, but that made me step back a bit. I know Anders and Hawke knew each other for years, but one night of sexing and they’re suddenly “omgtruluv11!!1”? I need to keep my options open as far as lifelong partnerships go….
(256): ‘in an unhealthy relationship’ should def be an fb option
We are the companions. Guardians of the Hawke and protector of heroes. Heroes like Garret Hawke. Honey, you mean Garret HAWT!
If there's a prize for rotten judgement I guess I've already won that No mage is worth the aggravation That's forgotten memories, been there, done that!
OH MY GOD NOOO
He’s lovely when he scowls.
Anders ran a clinic for a decade, and as Lirene says, he began his operation “without thought for coin.” And why? Because he cares about people; obviously he does, or he would have seized that opportunity of great suffering to wring the last dregs of wealth from the desperate and the sick. Doesn’t it seem odd, then, to think that Anders would allow his actions to claim more innocent lives than necessary to make his point? If you watch the destruction scene, the only people shown in the chantry are (approximately) five priestesses, a templar, and the grand cleric—but no civilians. If civilians were intended to be caught up in the act and harmed, I think BioWare would have made it a point to show that.
This is an opinion, of course, but it goes against what Anders himself believes about love. Anders is pansexual, and a Hawke of any gender, class, personality or belief system is the love of his life. It’s Hawke that Anders wants, not a body or a voice or a set of abilities. Hawke.
*applause for Surely*
Yup, this is everything I have to say on this subject as well. I ship Anders with Hawke. The end.
I…sometimes get sad when I see people who want to headcanon that Anders is really straight or gay, because there seems to be an unspoken implication that there’s something wrong with him being bisexual or pansexual. Otherwise why bother to change it in your headcanon?
I am bisexual (though my definition of this matches the definition of pansexual, I just prefer the term bisexual for myself) and it took me a very long time to come out of the closet, because of the RL prejudice I kept encountering from both the LGBT community as well as the straight community. And sometimes, seeing stuff like that directed at Anders just reminds me of it, and makes me sad.
I’m not saying that’s what this particular confession is supposed to mean, but it’s something that’s been on my mind for a while now, so I guess this kind of gives me an excuse to put it out there. I guess I wonder if anyone else feels this way?
Yes, I agree with everything you said signcherie. I identify as pan as well (albeit of the asexual variety). It made so happy that Anders is portrayed in this way, caring little for the body, making the mind what is important to him.
He has canonically been with both men and women. Fact. I just think it takes something away from his character to deny that. To say, ‘well I find x type of relationship squicky so I’m going to make this character gay/straight.’ To be honest, it smacks a bit of erasure, and that is something I’m not comfortable with at all.
By all means, make your Hawke exclusively gay or straight, but please don’t take away something so wonderful from Anders’ character.
Another pansexual here, agreeing with all of the above. Anders’s “I’ve always believed people fall in love with a person, not a body. Why would you shy away from loving someone just because they’re like you?” made me fall in love with him, and the writers. <3
Have I told you people how much I love you? Surely and Frankie and Anna (and cherie - but I don’t know you but love you still).
All the above is why I love Anders more than any videogame character ever before or since.
^The above commentary made me very happy. :)